Apr 29, 2012 17:14
12 yrs ago
Greek term
βιοτεχνία αρτοποιίας
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βιοτεχνία αρτοποιίας με εργαστήριο ζαχαροπλαστικής
Proposed translations
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| 3 +1 | bakery |
Philip Lees
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| 5 -1 | bread industry/ bread making industry |
transphy
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| 4 -2 | Bakery Industry |
Ioanna Daskalopoulou
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Proposed translations
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bakery
As Dimitris says, "industry" here would refer to the whole business of baking and not to an individual establishment. I suggest "bakery and patisserie" as a translation of the whole phrase.
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transphy
: Surely 'viotexnia'=craft(manship) and 'artopoia'= breadmaking. Breadmaking in England is a big 'Industry' THE BREAD INDUSTRY and 'Baking' refers more to 'Patisserie'. Where they make bread, of-course is a bakery BUT 'GENERALISED' FOR ALL DOUGH PRODUCTS
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gkarapapa
: Αυτό γράφουν όλοι σχεδόν οι φούρνοι της γειτονιάς.
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D. Harvatis
: This is probably the most appropriate term for a small breadmaker (=βιοτεχνία).
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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bread industry/ bread making industry
Either term is used.
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Mihailolja
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D. Harvatis
: "Industry" σημαίνει "κλάδος" ή "τομέας" και όχι μεμονωμένη επιχείρηση.
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'Industry' is the TOTAL engagement NOT ' a branch' of anything manufactured, made.... You talk of the 'SHIPPING', 'STEEL', 'MINING' Industries etc.. That is the TOTAL ENGAGEMENT IN THAT INDUSTRY. Not a 'part' or 'branch' of it.
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Philip Lees
: I agree with Dimitris that "industry" is not appropriate here.
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Surely, if a grandmother has a 'bakery', in the village, selling to neighbours and other villagers in Greece, that's a 'biotexnia'. But HOVIS, KINGSMILL, MOTHER'S PRIDE IN THE UK ARE AN INDUSTRY. The 'Bread Industry'
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Ioanna Daskalopoulou
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Native in: Greek (Variant: Modern) 
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Bakery Industry
The US bakery industry includes about 2800 commercial bakeries with combined annual revenue of about $30 billion, along with about 6000 retail bakeries with ..
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D. Harvatis
: Βλ. παραπάνω. Η "βιοτεχνία αρτοποιίας" είναι μία επιχείρηση, ενώ το "industry" αναφέρεται σε ολόκληρο τον κλάδο, άρα είναι λάθος μετάφραση.
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Νομίζω όμως ότι το "bakery industry" αναφέρεται σαφέστατα στον κλάδο της αρτοποιίας και όχι σε μία μεμονωμένη επιχείρηση όπως αναφέρετε.
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Philip Lees
: I agree with Dimitris that "industry" is not appropriate here.
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Discussion
Baking = cooking something in the oven (roasting also means that, but let's not get into the difference right now).
So bread is baked (as are some other things), and in particular, somebody who produces bread professionally is called a baker. The place where they do it is a bakery.
If you consider all the large commercial bread makers together, like Hovis, etc., then collectively you could refer to them as the bread-making industry or baking industry. However, that doesn't appear to be the meaning here.
Sweet cakes, tarts, buns, scones, etc., are made in a patisserie, or pastry shop. Those things are also baked, but if you say the word "bakery" to a native English speaker, they'll think of bread, not pastries.