Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
annullano l’individuazione degli altri
English translation:
prevent (the) others from being acknowledged as individuals
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Paul O'Brien
Dec 17, 2008 16:00
15 yrs ago
Italian term
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annullano l’individuazione degli altri
Italian to English
Social Sciences
Management
Slide presentation for staff trainign. Theme is "overconfidence". Talking about individual types who hog up all hte speaking time, who are only pretending to listen to what you're saying while just waiting to get back, going over the allotted speaking time, incapable of wrapping up at meetings etc.
remind you of anybody?
- investono con i loro discorsi (che fanno tacere tutti)
- interrompono o impediscono la replica
- annullano l’individuazione degli altri
- non capiscono e non ascoltano e non ricordano cosa dice l’altro
remind you of anybody?
- investono con i loro discorsi (che fanno tacere tutti)
- interrompono o impediscono la replica
- annullano l’individuazione degli altri
- non capiscono e non ascoltano e non ricordano cosa dice l’altro
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(English)
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Dec 22, 2008 09:54: luskie changed "Field" from "Other" to "Social Sciences"
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prevent (the) others from being acknowledged as individuals
if I let you speak, you'll be able to express yourself, and thus everybody (yourself, I, and everybody listening) will know that you have a definite identity and your own thoughts and manners and everything else of your own.
conversely, if I don't let you speak, you'll be nothing more than part of an audience, since you won't be recognizable as an individual (hence "individuazione"), you won't stand out and you'll just stay blurred... because there's just one person who deserves to stand out and who can have a personal identity... (and yes, this reminds me of so many people :)
actually, the italian sentence sounds a little bit weird to me, since "individuazione" is usually found in psychological contexts taht are far more specific and far more specialized - anyhow, this is what it should mean here imo, and hth
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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-12-17 19:29:57 GMT)
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La formazione dell'identità [modifica]
Il processo di formazione dell'identità si può distinguere in due componenti: una di identificazione e una di individuazione. Con la prima il soggetto si rifà alle figure rispetto alle quali si sente uguale e con le quali condivide alcuni caratteri; produce il senso di appartenenza a un'entità collettiva definita come noi (famiglia, patria, gruppo di pari, comunità locale, nazione fino ad arrivare al limite all'intera umanità). Con la componente di ***individuazione*** il soggetto fa riferimento alle caratteristiche che lo distinguono dagli altri, sia dagli altri gruppi a cui non appartiene (e, in questo senso, ogni identificazione/inclusione implica un'individuazione/esclusione), sia dagli altri membri del gruppo rispetto ai quali ***il soggetto si distingue per le proprie caratteristiche fisiche e morali e per una propria storia individuale (biografia) che è sua e di nessun altro.***
(da wikipedia)
conversely, if I don't let you speak, you'll be nothing more than part of an audience, since you won't be recognizable as an individual (hence "individuazione"), you won't stand out and you'll just stay blurred... because there's just one person who deserves to stand out and who can have a personal identity... (and yes, this reminds me of so many people :)
actually, the italian sentence sounds a little bit weird to me, since "individuazione" is usually found in psychological contexts taht are far more specific and far more specialized - anyhow, this is what it should mean here imo, and hth
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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-12-17 19:29:57 GMT)
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La formazione dell'identità [modifica]
Il processo di formazione dell'identità si può distinguere in due componenti: una di identificazione e una di individuazione. Con la prima il soggetto si rifà alle figure rispetto alle quali si sente uguale e con le quali condivide alcuni caratteri; produce il senso di appartenenza a un'entità collettiva definita come noi (famiglia, patria, gruppo di pari, comunità locale, nazione fino ad arrivare al limite all'intera umanità). Con la componente di ***individuazione*** il soggetto fa riferimento alle caratteristiche che lo distinguono dagli altri, sia dagli altri gruppi a cui non appartiene (e, in questo senso, ogni identificazione/inclusione implica un'individuazione/esclusione), sia dagli altri membri del gruppo rispetto ai quali ***il soggetto si distingue per le proprie caratteristiche fisiche e morali e per una propria storia individuale (biografia) che è sua e di nessun altro.***
(da wikipedia)
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Comment: "good one. "individuazione" was hard."
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