Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Turkish term or phrase:
kullandırma hakkı
English translation:
right to allow to be used
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11 yrs ago
Turkish term
kullandırma hakkı
Turkish to English
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İş bu sözleşme çerçevesinde Kiracı’ya teslim edilen ekipmanların mülkiyeti ana firmaya, TC sınırları içerisinde tüm kullanma ve kullandırma hakları xxxx'e aittir
Proposed translations
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Change log
Dec 28, 2012 20:08: Salih YILDIRIM changed "Language pair" from "Turkish to English" to "English to Turkish"
Jan 3, 2013 03:26: Recep Kurt changed "Language pair" from "English to Turkish" to "Turkish to English"
Feb 8, 2013 09:08: [Removed] (X) Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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right to allow to be used
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Note added at 9 mins (2012-12-25 22:49:57 GMT)
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"... Licensee shall only use or allow to be used..."
http://www.ellispub.com/terms-conditions.html
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Note added at 16 mins (2012-12-25 22:56:02 GMT)
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"... Tenants must not use (or allow to be used) the allotment..."
http://www.edenallotments.co.uk/allotment-t-agreement.pdf
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Note added at 1 day12 hrs (2012-12-27 11:19:45 GMT)
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or:
right to allow usage,
upon Tim's suggestion.
:-)
But my preference is the first one...
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Note added at 9 mins (2012-12-25 22:49:57 GMT)
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"... Licensee shall only use or allow to be used..."
http://www.ellispub.com/terms-conditions.html
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Note added at 16 mins (2012-12-25 22:56:02 GMT)
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"... Tenants must not use (or allow to be used) the allotment..."
http://www.edenallotments.co.uk/allotment-t-agreement.pdf
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Note added at 1 day12 hrs (2012-12-27 11:19:45 GMT)
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or:
right to allow usage,
upon Tim's suggestion.
:-)
But my preference is the first one...
Peer comment(s):
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erkehan
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teşekkürler :-)
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Tim Drayton
: 'Right to allow usage' would work better, in my opinion, see e.g. http://www.registertrademarks.net/canada-trademark/ "The owner also has the right to allow usage of the trademark to others."
1 day 12 hrs
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Right, it could work either, I know that it is used, I thought about it as well, but I thought this one is better. Thank you.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+1
8 hrs
Raffi Jamgocyan
Türkiye
Türkiye
Native in Turkish
Türkiye
Microsoft Certified Tech. Specialist
Native in: Turkish (Variant: Standard-İstanbul ) 
Works in: English to Turkish, Turkish to English
Related KudoZ points
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28
right to grant usufruct
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10 hrs
Tim Drayton
Cyprus
Cyprus
Native in English
Cyprus
English, not translationese
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Turkish to English, German to English
Related KudoZ points
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12
(the right of use thereof) [...] the right to assign the same
Usufruct may be used with reference to movables such as equipment, but I think it is more commonly used with reference to real property. I would prefer to go with 'right of use' here.
The correct verbs to use with 'right of use' are, I think, 'assign', 'transfer' or 'convey'; eg:
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:...
“(7) In view of the requirement that it should own the various system components, it will assign the right of use thereof to the concessionaire for the duration of the concession.”
I think this is especially true in the current context, in which the right has already been created and the right holder is simply exercising the right of disposal over this right, which already exists.
In legal English, the expression 'the same' often comes into play to avoid repetition, and could be usefully used here where we have 'kullanma = use' + 'kullandırma=cause/permit/allow to be used', which would otherwise necessitate repetition of the verb 'use'
In my opinion, in order to express this idea in plausible English legal discourse, the sentence needs to be reconstructed, perhaps along the following lines:
"The equipment […] shall remain the property of the principal company, with xxxx acquiring the right of use thereof, and the right to assign the same to third parties."
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Note added at 10 hrs (2012-12-26 09:19:18 GMT)
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That should of course be "... all rights of use thereof within the borders of the Republic of Turkey ..."
The correct verbs to use with 'right of use' are, I think, 'assign', 'transfer' or 'convey'; eg:
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:...
“(7) In view of the requirement that it should own the various system components, it will assign the right of use thereof to the concessionaire for the duration of the concession.”
I think this is especially true in the current context, in which the right has already been created and the right holder is simply exercising the right of disposal over this right, which already exists.
In legal English, the expression 'the same' often comes into play to avoid repetition, and could be usefully used here where we have 'kullanma = use' + 'kullandırma=cause/permit/allow to be used', which would otherwise necessitate repetition of the verb 'use'
In my opinion, in order to express this idea in plausible English legal discourse, the sentence needs to be reconstructed, perhaps along the following lines:
"The equipment […] shall remain the property of the principal company, with xxxx acquiring the right of use thereof, and the right to assign the same to third parties."
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Note added at 10 hrs (2012-12-26 09:19:18 GMT)
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That should of course be "... all rights of use thereof within the borders of the Republic of Turkey ..."
Peer comment(s):
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[Removed] (X)
: Assigning the right of use to a third party or allowing use by somebody else would differ. I understand that the question is about allowing it to be used by somebody else - later note: ok: “..allowing use by a third party”: idea of my note does not change
4 hrs
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Thank you for the feedback. 'Third party' is legalese for 'somebody else', as far as I know.
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22 hrs
Salih YILDIRIM
United States
United States
Native in Turkish
United States
Meticulous, scrupulous, curious work!
Native in: Turkish (Variant: Standard-İstanbul )
Works in: Turkish to English, English to Turkish, French to Turkish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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28
Right to let s/t to be used
Imho
2 days 22 hrs
Discussion
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"xxxx shall have the right to use and the right to allow to be used",
while grammatically a perfectly correct translation, is, in my opinion, clumsy English that is hard for the reader to understand. That is why I would wish to find an alternative way of phrasing this.