Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

l\'etre (de ce referent)

English translation:

(referent) entity

Added to glossary by beatrice25
Mar 19, 2012 16:50
12 yrs ago
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French term

l'etre (de ce referent)

French to English Art/Literary Linguistics
“....basée sur le rapport de la manière à l'être. En effet, si la manière d'action du référent du sujet est ‘strong’, alors on peut légitimement en inférer que, apparemment en tout cas, l'être de ce référent doit être ‘strong’ également. La manière du prédicat se réinterprète ainsi comme jugement de modalité d'apparence de l'être du sujet. »

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cc in nyc Mar 20, 2012:
Source text and then some This looks like the source text:
http://stl.recherche.univ-lille3.fr/sitespersonnels/miller/F...

And this is a somewhat comparable text by the same author:
http://ealing.cognition.ens.fr/ealing2006/handouts/miller4.p...

Of course it would be nice if we had at least the source text reference from the outset. :-||
philgoddard Mar 19, 2012:
What comes before this? It starts in mid sentence.

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(referent) entity

Here's how I'd translate the passage:

...based on the manner's relationship to the entity. Indeed, if the manner of the referent's action is 'strong', one can legitimately infer that, apparently in all cases, the referent entity itself must also be 'strong'. The manner of the predicate is thus reinterpreted as a modality judgment about the appearance of the entity denoted by the subject.

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Some examples of "referent entity" from scholarly works on semantics:

"Likewise, the degree of semantic overlap between the anaphor and the referent is likely to play an important role in the resolution of many noun anaphora that require the reactivation of the referent entity..." http://goo.gl/tffud

"Two further conceptual categories here are 'perspectival distance', with three main member notions: a perspective point's distal, medial, or proximal distance from a referent entity;..." http://goo.gl/hyj4k

"For, clearly the fact that a nominal is prefixing can be seen as an iconic reflection of the fact that the referent entity is so closely connected with its "possessor" that it can have no existence independent of the latter." http://goo.gl/3YXnE
Peer comment(s):

agree cc in nyc : "entity" it is! http://ealing.cognition.ens.fr/ealing2006/handouts/miller4.p... // It was there for the finding; I just didn't look for it beforehand – but I shoulda! :o
7 hrs
Wow, how did you dig that up? I'm impressed.
agree Letredenoblesse
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Thanks, Agnes.
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conduct

how he behaves

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Note added at 28 min (2012-03-19 17:18:54 GMT)
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behaviour
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being (of this referent)

IMO based on the Wiki toggle:
FR: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Être
EN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being

Also, there's this "unviewable" preview of Culioli book:
The verb being will refer to an identification: in being, there is stability. Being is also used in an existential... [unviewable] Then again, being comprises a property of stabilization, of a stabilized character, that renders it compatible with... [unviewable]
– page 151, Cognition and representation in linguistic theory by Antoine Culioli, Michel Liddle, John T. Stonham
http://books.google.com/books?ei=VXBnT6CzPKnw0gG597ykCA&id=s...

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Oops. This is not Culioli, but Philip Miller. :o
...."never mind"....
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