Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

overloopdebat

English translation:

structured controversy

Added to glossary by Ben Hickman
Apr 23, 2007 08:10
17 yrs ago
Dutch term

overloopdebat

Dutch to English Social Sciences Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
I cannot find this word in any dictionary, and Google produces just four hits. One of those links provides a fairly good explanation of what is intended (http://www.daltonvoorburg.nl/activiteiten/debatteren/haganum... Does anyone know if there is an equivalent English term?

Discussion

Adam Smith Apr 23, 2007:
Thank you, Ben. May I just add a polite reminder about Proz/Kudoz rules allowing at least 24 hr between posting and grading to allow people to submit additional references (etc) and to allow for different time zones. :-)
Jack den Haan Apr 23, 2007:
Thanks for the extra information. Did you google 'taking sides debate'? There are quite a few references for it in an academic/university context.
Adam Smith Apr 23, 2007:
It's a pretty unusual format (see reference provided), so perhaps best to go with the Dutch original and an explanation
Ben Hickman (asker) Apr 23, 2007:
Additional context information Perhaps I should provide some additional context, because I don't think we're really heading in the right direction. The text I am translating is for a prominent Dutch university. Two members of the faculty recently participated in a friendly debate in a public forum (the audience consisted mostly of university staff, along with some students). The purpose of the debate was to stimulate discussion pertaining to the direction the university should pursue in the coming years. The two participants chose opposing sides and presented their cases, then each round was followed by discussion (no points, no winner or loser). Apparently (if I am interpreting the meaning of "overloopdebat" correctly), if one of the two was convinced by the argument of the other he could contribute his supporting thoughts as well. Perhaps this is an exclusively Dutch phenomenon? Or perhaps the Dutch are the only ones to have given the construction its own special name...

Proposed translations

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structured controversy

Structured controversy - they're also popular as a didactic tool, where they can take different formats. The references below describes some of these, e.g.

"# Conduct the controversy:

* Plan positions.
* Present positions.
* Argue the issue.
* Reverse positions and argue the issue from those perspectives.
* Reach a decision."

http://olc.spsd.sk.ca/DE/PD/instr/strats/structuredcon/index...

See also,

http://www.learner.org/channel/workshops/civics/workshop7/le...

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A "structured debate" might also cover this, but you would probably have to explain how it was structured.

[Apologies for typo: that should, of course, be "describe"!]

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Another example:

"n a structured controversy, students are asked to research an issue from at least 2 points of view and to be prepared to defend each. On the day of the class, groups are formed and a 'debate' takes place. Later, students are switched, often into new groups, and asked to defend the alternate position. The purpose of the exercise is to give students a practical opportunity to apply the theory contained in the assigned readings for this session."

ref. http://www.commerce.usask.ca/faculty/backman/mba867/structur...

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Switch / change sides debate is another alternative:


Our students participate in “policy debate,” a two-on-two format that focuses principally on questions of public policy. Students “switch-sides,” meaning that in a typical tournament with eight preliminary debates each team is assigned to debate on the “affirmative” four times and on the “negative” four times. The objective of this format is to teach argument skills, not ideology. Accordingly, students learn to defend some positions they may personally agree with and some with which they differ. Whatever your chosen profession – business, law, the academy – you will need the skills required to articulate a well considered and well developed position. Our objective is to provide you with the skills required to defend a strong case in whatever advocacy situation you may confront.

ref. http://www.debate.northwestern.edu/faq/

However, re-reading the Dutch article it seems that the US/UK equivalents are more structured, where teams have to switch to defending the alternative, whereas the Dutch version is less structured allowing participants to change sides if they wish. You might need to retain the Dutch with an explanation!

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A pretty unusual format as acknowledged by one of the (very) few Dutch articles available (http://www.daltonvoorburg.nl/activiteiten/debatteren/haganum...

As I said previously, perhaps you need to retain the Dutch with an explanation.
Peer comment(s):

agree writeaway : but with debate for the question context?
1 hr
Yes - and I think perhaps "switch sides" might need to be included and/or the original with an explanation
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Although I still haven't been able to find any references in which "structured controversy" is used to refer to a non-classroom situation, I've decided to use this term because it most closely conveys the intended meaning. Thanks for your extensive efforts and contributions."
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taking-sides debate

Not more than a suggestion, I'm afraid. See http://www.ic.arizona.edu/ic/fs427/debate.html , for example, although the issue there is not quite the same.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Adam Smith : Don't you "take sides" (although these may change over time) by definition in a debate? // I don't want to pour scorn on "googling", but it's only about 25 refs when repeats are omitted!
3 hrs
Yes, that's the whole idea of a debate of course. But nevertheless, the expression 'taking sides debate' seems to be quite common (3680 google hits).
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