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Glossary entry

Portuguese term or phrase:

É necessária a apresentação da Carteira de Reservista para renovar passaporte.

English translation:

A (Brazilian) Military Service Card must be presented for passport renewal

Added to glossary by Veronikka (X)
Nov 22, 2009 12:45
14 yrs ago
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Portuguese term

É necessária a apresentação da Carteira de Reservista para renovar passaporte.

Portuguese to English Other General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters vocabulário - documentos
"É necessária a apresentação da Carteira de Reservista para renovar o passaporte brasileiro".
Proposed translations (English)
5 +2 A (Brazilian) Military Service Card must be presented for passport renewal
4 +3 It's necessary to produce a Reservist Card to renew a passport
5 -1 A Reserve ID Card must be presented for passport renewal.
4 It is necessary to present Military Service Exemption Card for passport renewal
4 A Reservist Card must be presented to renew a passport . . .

Discussion

Marlene Curtis Nov 22, 2009:
It's necessary... The following documents are necessary for the filing patent ...
These documents shall be presented in two copies. ... in addition to set forth above documents it is necessary to present following documents (except the copy ...
www.galifire.com/index.php/.../60-2009-05-11-19-29-46
coolbrowne Nov 22, 2009:
É necessário... Well, "It's necessary to..." is not incorrect, but it doesn't quite sound right in the sense that there are other standard forms that are consistently used in that bureaucratic context, for instance, "...XXX is required", which generally follows the specification of the procedure that requires XXX.
David Drysdale (X) Nov 22, 2009:
Hmm? I see the Portuguese . "É necessário . . " However, can we always translate that "straight across" and begin a sentence . . It's necessary to . . . " Does that sound (soa) right in English?

Proposed translations

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7 hrs
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A (Brazilian) Military Service Card must be presented for passport renewal

There is no such thing as a "reservist card" and that expressino would not be understood as the Brazilan Military Service Card.Please note that this is not an Exemption anything. It is issued to people who have served (and become "reservista", that is member of the reserve forces) as well as to the ones who, after enlisting (which is mandatory) were exempted.

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Note added at 11 days (2009-12-04 01:10:16 GMT) Post-grading
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You are welcome, Veronikka. I appreciate your kind words and I'm glad to have been of assistance.
Peer comment(s):
agree Eng-Port : I think you may have it here... specify in parenthesis (Brazilian) and that clears it up to the reader that it is a specific Document.
1 day 18 hrs
Thank you. You got it precisely.
agree George C.
2 days 14 hrs
Thank you.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you , Coolbrowne for such a good translation! "
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3 hrs

A Reserve ID Card must be presented for passport renewal.

that's what I usually hear. I added some reference below too.
Reference:

http://resources.seacadets.org/forms/forms_admin/nscadm006.pdf

Peer comment(s):
disagree coolbrowne : A "Reserve ID Card" would make sense once a specific military context were clearly established.
4 hrs
I was debating with it when I first posted, as it's all tricky to translate it because systems vary from country to country. Reserve ID Card is what I hear for the US, but your answer below might be the best as it just explains what it is.
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5 hrs

It is necessary to present Military Service Exemption Card for passport renewal

The item you are referring to as a "Carteira de Reservista" Is a document that does not have an exact correlation in the United States to my knowledge... To wit: there is no actual physical Card issued for this purpose.
However.. During the time of "Draft" (something of the past) it was necessary to be "Legally Excluded from Military service" but even in that time I have not found a "Exemption Card" actually physically being issued.
This question may need to be resolved by a call to the local Brazilian Consulate.

Below I posted a Wikipedia Article on "Conscription in the United States". It may be of some help.


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Note added at 6 hrs (2009-11-22 18:59:45 GMT)
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Only problem I have with the current translation above... is that a "Reservist Card" does not exist in USA... So how does this affect the translation? translate literaly and leave the reader in the dark or render the meaning and its intent?
By calling it a "Reservist Card" you run the risk of the reader misunderstanding this required document as his "Military Reserve Identification Card" which is an entirely different document... If the person had this document then they would be a member of our Arm Forces Reserve which is another issue.
Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States

Peer comment(s):
agree Verginia Ophof
53 mins
disagree coolbrowne : Sorry, this is incorrect. The C. R. is issued to both exempted and non exempted.
1 hr
In Brazil... But not in the USA. If you have info regarding this Card Existing in the United States.. Please post a link to the information.
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7 hrs

A Reservist Card must be presented to renew a passport . . .

Suggestion:

A Reservist Card must be presented to renew a passport . . .
Beginning with . . It's necessary to . . . " just doesn't sound right in English (help me out Amy!) . . at the beginning of a sentence! Are we sometimes thinking in Portuguese and writing in English?
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42 mins

It's necessary to produce a Reservist Card to renew a passport

Gateway Community College | Library | Policies
Please respect the rights of others when you are in the library to ensure a ... Library users must have a Gateway library card to borrow materials, or to use in-house reserve items. ... Applicants must produce valid proof of identity to obtain a card. ... A library card is required to use all reserve materials. ...
www.gwctc.commnet.edu › Library

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Note added at 8 hrs (2009-11-22 21:30:10 GMT)
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The following documents are necessary for the filing patent ...
These documents shall be present in two copies. ... in addition to set forth above documents it is necessary to present following documents (except the copy ...
www.galifire.com/index.php/.../60-2009-05-11-19-29-46
Peer comment(s):
agree Maria José Tavares (X)
23 mins
Grata!
agree Evans (X) : not sure about your reference as this has nothing to do with libraries, but to do with the army, but your translation is fine!
23 mins
Thanks! My poiny was to show the use of the word "produce" (in a document context)
agree Marcelo Gonçalves
31 days
Grata Marcelo!
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