Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
pretendidos autores en primicia de ideas
English translation:
would-be pioneers of new ideas
Added to glossary by
William Pairman
Feb 13, 2020 19:44
4 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Spain
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pretendidos autores en primicia de ideas
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
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From the brochure for an exhibition on a man who was a bit of a Da Vinci type, a polymath who worked in design, engineering, architecture and so on. The XXXXX refer to his original inventions or ideas, I've omitted them for reasons of confidenciality but I don't think they're essential to the sentences...
Personaje controvertido y polémico, bebió de ideas y procesos en marcha en su tiempo, que supo desarrollar en teorías y experimentos de alcance masivo. Con ello, nombres de *****pretendidos autores en primicia de ideas***** como XXXXX o las XXXXX, quedarían casi ocultos en un segundo plano.
I don't understand this idea of "pretendidos autores" - a Spanish colleague thinks that it refers to others who sought to pass off this bloke's groundbreaking ideas as their own, but there's no reference to who they might be or examples of them doing this. It seems strange to introduce this allegation of plagiarism and then not mention who was responsible or give any details
Personaje controvertido y polémico, bebió de ideas y procesos en marcha en su tiempo, que supo desarrollar en teorías y experimentos de alcance masivo. Con ello, nombres de *****pretendidos autores en primicia de ideas***** como XXXXX o las XXXXX, quedarían casi ocultos en un segundo plano.
I don't understand this idea of "pretendidos autores" - a Spanish colleague thinks that it refers to others who sought to pass off this bloke's groundbreaking ideas as their own, but there's no reference to who they might be or examples of them doing this. It seems strange to introduce this allegation of plagiarism and then not mention who was responsible or give any details
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +2 | would-be trail-blazers |
Muriel Vasconcellos
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| 3 +1 | those with a claim to have originated the ideas |
patinba
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| 3 | self-proclaimed/ so-called |
Lydia De Jorge
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Proposed translations
+2
6 hrs
Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Each translation a gem!
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English
Related KudoZ points
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92
Selected
would-be trail-blazers
Another thought, based on the overall context.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Carol Gullidge
14 hrs
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Thank you, Carol!
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| agree |
ormiston
: As Carol said above, plus your nice idea!
1 day 13 hrs
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Yes, Carol was my inspiration.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
16 mins
Lydia De Jorge
United States
United States
Native in Spanish
&
English
Works in field
United States
Don't just say it, say it right!
Native in: Spanish 
, English
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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64
self-proclaimed/ so-called
Self-proclaimed creators of new ideas...
+1
21 mins
those with a claim to have originated the ideas
such as XXXX and XXXX (the reference to whom they might be, surely?)
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: The XXXs are the ideas, not the originators, but I agree with your interpretation.
30 mins
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Correct, I did not see the "las". Thanks Phil.
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Discussion
We do of course have the expression "Pretender to the throne", whose meaning is roughly along these lines. A would-be monarch...