Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Ass. jur.

English translation:

Associate Lawyer

Added to glossary by Adrian MM.
May 24, 2021 06:28
2 yrs ago
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German term

Ass. jur.

German to English Law/Patents Law (general)
Ass. jur. [Name]

I need the Btritish English equivalent of Ass. jur., please.

Thank you!
Change log

May 29, 2021 12:50: Adrian MM. Created KOG entry

Discussion

AllegroTrans May 24, 2021:
Asker "I need the Btritish English equivalent of Ass. jur., please". Beware of ever assuming that professional titles and qualifications have "equivalents" between different countries. See discussion and suggestions at https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german-to-english/law-general/596...

Proposed translations

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Associate Lawyer

Context - corporation, organisation, law office or Civil Service - needed: cf. the corp title: of Counsel.

Legal Support Solicitor: not under-qualified, but often married women lawyers working part-time.

The assessorin juris I once worked with at a law firm in Hamburg - pace others who have worked with such venerable and venerated lawyers - had def. been newly qualified as in my last weblinked answer and carried an implicit message: *caution: newly qualified with no PQE > post-qualification experience*.
Example sentence:

Ein Of Counsel (englisch of counsel ‚in beratender Funktion'; Plural meist auch Of Counsel; oft kurz Counsel) ist ein Berufsträger in einer Rechtsanwaltskanzlei oder einem ähnlichen Unternehmen...

("Volljurist" or "Assessor"), law school graduates have to *complete a two-year rotation clerkship*.

Peer comment(s):

agree AllegroTrans : This would work as an explanatory translations in brackets following the DE term; trying to force any more "equivalence" from the term is dangerous imo
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Thanks, Chris. In my day in the City, there had also been 'Assistant Solicitors' who have now 'graduated' to Associates or the aforementioned Legal Support Lawyers.
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legal adviser

legal adviser

-**Legal Adviser** to the Senior President of Tribunals (Judicial Office)
- He became principal **legal adviser** in 1976, was knighted and took silk.
Times, Sunday Times (2013)

- "... Ms. Remus served as the campaign’s top lawyer and before that was a key **legal adviser** to President Barack Obama. She was the White House ethics lawyer for Mr. Obama..."
Example sentence:

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/legal-adviser

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/us/politics/dana-remus-biden.html

Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : No, that is one of many posts that a person with this qualification might occupy; too specific and restrictive
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fully qualified lawyer

Der Ass. jur. ist ein Volljurist. D. h. er hat das 2. juristische Examen.
Peer comment(s):

agree Peter Lautz
5 days
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legal assessor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assessor_(law)

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Note added at 6 hrs (2021-05-24 13:14:49 GMT)
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https://www.beihilferatgeber.de/service/fuer-berufseinsteige...
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Assessor iuris, Rechtsassessor

Note from asker:
Thanks, Brent. You want to enter it as an answer so I can assign at least 3 points?
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Steffen Walter : https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german-to-english/law-general/596...
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agree A. & S. Witte : I would not post this as an answer. It is not good enough for that. Not even the grading comment "fully qualified lawyer who has passed both state examinations" or Allegro's work really cut it although they just about get close to the heart of the matter.
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agree SelecTra : with "fully qualified lawyer" ... aber Achtung: keinesfalls "J.D." - das entspricht dem "Dr.jur.", also eine Stufe weiter - ein Ass.jur. hat noch keine Promotion!
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agree AllegroTrans : Useful discussion etc. and asker needs to beware of "equivalents" as with all professional qualifications and job titles
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