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Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

eindlegpluimvee

English translation:

end-of-lay poultry

Added to glossary by Willemina Hagenauw
May 5, 2017 07:54
7 yrs ago
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Dutch term

eindlegpluimvee

Dutch to English Other Livestock / Animal Husbandry Working arrangements
This is from a government document regarding working arrangements between two organisations.
"In het geval van meldingen met betrekking tot de bestrijding van Salmonella bij eindlegpluimvee wordt de melding primair gedaan bij XXXX (government body). Does anyone know what eindlegpluimvee means? - End of lay poultry?
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 poultry in the end of the laying phase
3 +2 layers; egg-laying hens
References
refs
In 2011 zijn zeventien gevallen van ILT...

Discussion

Kitty Brussaard May 5, 2017:
@Richard End-of-lay hens would be called 'uitgelegde hennen' in Dutch. That being said, I'm not sure at all if 'eindlegpluimvee' refers to end-of-lay hens.
Barend van Zadelhoff May 5, 2017:
In the context of: "In het geval van meldingen met betrekking tot de bestrijding van Salmonella bij eindlegpluimvee wordt de melding primair gedaan bij XXX"

just 'spent hens' of just 'almost spent hens' does not make sense.

Neither does it the context of:

In 2011 zijn zeventien gevallen van ILT gemeld. In 2010 waren dit er negen. De ILT-uitbraken komen voor in de legsector (leg-vermeerdering, opfokleg en eindleg) en bij vleeskuikenkoppels.

While 'leghennen' does.
Richard Purdom May 5, 2017:
Thing is, how would you translate end-of-lay hens into NL? Mind you, 'eind' may be entirely unnecessary, like 'eindgebruiker' etc.
Kitty Brussaard May 5, 2017:
@Barend My corrections are related to the definitions/descriptions I provided for 'legvermeerdering' and 'opfokleg' in my earlier D-box entry.

As for your reference comment, I'll have a look at it later on.
Barend van Zadelhoff May 5, 2017:
corrections ? Correcting what?

Overigens schijn je mijn ref te hebben gemist.
Kitty Brussaard May 5, 2017:
Corrections Opfokleg > layer breeding / breeding of laying hens (opfok van leghennen).
See f.i. https://www.poultryvets.nl/legkippen/opfokleg/

legvermeerdering > production of layer hatching eggs (i.e. fertile eggs laid by layer breeders)

See also the following definitions:

Opfok legvermeerdering
In de opfok legvermeerdering worden eendagskuikens opgefokt in 17 weken tijd tot legvermeerderingshennen en hanen.

Legvermeerdering
In de legvermeerdering worden door vermeerderingshennen en-hanen broedeieren geproduceerd.

Opfok leg
Op opfoklegbedrijven worden eendagskuikens in 17 weken opgefokt tot een legkip.

Leg
Legbedrijven zijn de bedrijven waar de legkippen eieren leggen voor de consumptie. De legkippenkomen op 17 weken leeftijd vanaf een opfoklegbedrijf op het legbedrijf.
http://docplayer.nl/17263151-Bedrijfsbegeleiding-en-sectorin...

Unfortunately, I still haven't been able to find conclusive evidence to back up my assumption that 'eindlegsector' equals 'legbedrijven' (and 'eindlegpluimvee' refers to 'egg-laying hens'). For all I know, I could be entirely wrong and this term may just as well refer to the industry that processes end-of-life hens (uitgelegde hennen).
Kitty Brussaard May 5, 2017:
I may be wrong but I got the impression that the following applies:

legvermeerdering >> layer and broiler breeding/hatching (poultry type: layer/broiler breeders)
opfokleg >> broiler poultry farming (poultry type: broilers / meat chickens)
eindleg >> production of eggs for human consumption (poultry type: layers /egg-laying hens / table-egg laying hens)

End-of-lay hens ('spent hens') normally refers to commercial laying and breeding hens that have reached the end of their productive life.
Richard Purdom May 5, 2017:
End-of-lay hens as in Kitty's answer
Willemina Hagenauw (asker) May 5, 2017:
chicken/egg I have three hens myself. They start of being point of lay: at the point of laying. So this is end of lay....?
Michael Beijer May 5, 2017:
a question for writeaway: Since you seem to be a chicken expert, what's the difference between:

"leg-vermeerdering"
"opfokleg", and
"eindleg"

?
Michael Beijer May 5, 2017:
and this: "In 2011 zijn zeventien gevallen van ILT gemeld. In 2010 waren dit er negen. De ILT-uitbraken komen voor in de legsector (leg-vermeerdering, opfokleg en eindleg) en bij vleeskuikenkoppels.
In Nederland wordt gevaccineerd tegen de ziekte."

(http://www.boerderij.nl/Pluimveehouderij/Nieuws/2011/12/Stij... )
Michael Beijer May 5, 2017:
I couldn't find all to much instances of the term "eindleg". I did find this:

"De resultaten van de M.s-monitoring van
2013 en het eerste kwartaal van 2014
laten eenzelfde beeld zien. De M.s.-
prevalentie (het aantal keren dat M.s. is
aangetoond) is laag in de fok- (vlees en
leg), legvermeerderings-, opfokleg- en
kalkoensector, in tegenstelling tot in
de vleesvermeerderings- en de eindlegsector." (https://issuu.com/gezondheidsdienstvoordieren/docs/gd_pluimv... )

"De resultaten van de M.s.-seromonitoring (bloedonderzoek) laten zien dat de M.s.-
prevalentie in de Nederlandse pluimveesector in 2013, met uitzondering van de
prevalentie in de (opfok) vleesvermeerderingssector en eindlegsector, gedaald is ten
opzichte van de prevalentiemeting in 2005-2006." (http://www.gddiergezondheid.nl/~/media/Files/Monitoringsflye... )
Michael Beijer May 5, 2017:
Hi Kitty,

How did you get from "eindleg" to your answer?

I assumed it meant "tegen het eind van de legfase" (as per: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/NL-EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:... )(nl/en bilingual view)

Proposed translations

+2
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poultry in the end of the laying phase

'eindleg' specifically refers to a phase in egg production
Example sentence:

[...] or laying unit and the second one taking place towards the end of the laying phase, not earlier than eight weeks before the end of the production cycle;

Reference:

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:02010R0200-20110529

Peer comment(s):
agree Michael Beijer : Sounds fine to me. I would change that to either "at the end", or "toward(s) the end", rather than "in the end of the laying phase" / or "end-of-lay poultry" (as suggested by Willemina)
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I was pondering between in and at, ultimately choose for in, as I feel it refers specifically to the period of the phase. But I don't necessarily disagree with you.
agree Greg Irving (X) : I agree, with "end-of-lay poultry" or "end of laying cycle hens". Agriculture is my primary speciality.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks. I used end-of-lay."
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layers; egg-laying hens

Or even more fully table-egg laying hens, i.e. hens kept to produce eggs for human consumption. As opposed to so-called layer or broiler breeders, i.e. hens kept to produce eggs for layer or broiler hatcheries.

See f.i. https://tinyurl.com/kxfqe6e.

PS. End-of-lay hens or 'spent hens' are commercial egg-laying and breeding hens that have reached the end of their productive life.

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Note added at 1 zi4 ore (2017-05-06 12:24:59 GMT)
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In 2011 werden meer eindlegbedrijven (72) verdacht verklaard dan in 2010 (37). 11% van het totale aantal Salmonella-positieve bedrijven in 2011 betrof legbedrijven met uitloop. In 2010 lag dit percentage op 13%. De gemiddelde leeftijd van de koppels was hoger dan in voorgaande jaren. Gezien de marktsituatie en het kooiverbod waren in de tweede helft van 2011 veel legpluimveehouders erop aangewezen om de dieren langer aan te houden dan normaal. Koppels leghennen lopen op hogere leeftijd meer risico om met Salmonella geïnfecteerd te raken.
http://www.gddiergezondheid.nl/~/media/Files/Monitoringsflye...

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Note added at 1 zi5 ore (2017-05-06 13:07:06 GMT)
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The 'legsector' seems to comprise 'legvermeerdering' (production of layer hatching eggs), 'legopfok (breeding of laying hens) and 'eindleg'. See refs in D-box and see also Barend's reference comment.

Taking this into account, it seems only logical to assume that 'eindleg' refers to that part of the 'legsector' that focuses on the production of eggs as the final/end product (i.e. table eggs for human consumption, laid by laying hens/eindlegpluimvee) rather than the production of layer hatching eggs (or the breeding of new layers). The latter type of eggs are not an end product in itself but are used for breeding new layers that - once grown - will be used for the production of eggs as final (end-customer) products.
Peer comment(s):
neutral writeaway : the NL law is clearly adapted from EU law and it's best to stick to EU terminology, no matter how painful it may be. naturally these hens are layers. goes without saying
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Thanks, writeaway. The EurLex source you're referring to describes three phases of the production cycle, including the 'eind van de legfase' / 'end of the laying phase'. I'm not sure if this has direct relevance for asker's question but I may be wrong.
agree Barend van Zadelhoff : Ik neig naar deze interpretatie. Zie ref.
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Dank je wel, Barend. Ik ben er zelf eerlijk gezegd nog niet helemaal zeker van, ook niet op basis van jouw ref.
agree Richard Purdom : seems most likely considering the context
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Thanks, Richard.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

refs

"Several studies have indicated that toward the end of the laying phase (approximately 72 weeks of age), a combination of high calcium demand for egg production and a lack of exercise can lead to osteoporosis." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_cage )

see also: https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB733GB733&... (Google search for "the end of the laying phase")
Peer comments on this reference comment:
neutral Kitty Brussaard : I understand where you're coming from but I'm not sure if 'eindlegpluimvee' refers to hens at/towards the end of the laying phase. But even if it does, it's not necessarily the same thing as end-of-lay hens (end of productive life vs end of laying phase).
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Reference:

In 2011 zijn zeventien gevallen van ILT gemeld. In 2010 waren dit er negen. De ILT-uitbraken komen voor in de legsector (leg-vermeerdering, opfokleg en eindleg) en bij vleeskuikenkoppels.
In Nederland wordt gevaccineerd tegen de ziekte.

http://www.boerderij.nl/Pluimveehouderij/Nieuws/2011/12/Stij...

'Eindleg' lijkt 'leghennen', c.q. legpluimvee, te betekenen.


eindleg - de laatste fase in het legsector - legfase

vermeerderen - opfokken - leggen

vermeerderingshennen/-hanen - opfokleghennen - leghennen
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Kitty Brussaard : That was/is my impression too, but it would be nice to have some more conclusive evidence. / I had already found similar refs myself which is why I posted my answer in the first place. However, it would be nice to find something really conclusive.
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Something like this you must have thought/surmised... without evidence. Now, in combination with some sane logic, you find the evidence above. 'In my humble opinion' they tend to add.
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