Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
"plein droit"
English translation:
by operation of law
Added to glossary by
Sophie Duggan
May 19, 2004 23:32
19 yrs ago
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French term
"plein droit"
French to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
This one crops up often, e.g. "domicile est elu de plein droit". Literally translated I'd go with "as a matter of full law", but this looks a bit soggy. Anyone out there with a sharper view?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +2 | by operation of law |
Marian Greenfield
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| 5 +1 | automatically, naturally, as a matter of course, by rights |
Bourth (X)
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| 4 +1 | by rights |
swisstell
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| 3 | common law domicile |
Marc Van Gastel
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Proposed translations
+2
14 mins
Marian Greenfield
Native in English
Over 30 years in financial translation
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, English
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by operation of law
MSN Encarta - Related Items - Husband and Wife
... criminal acts. dissolution of marriage. domicile by operation of law. dowry. marriage
and divorce rates around the world. marriage restrictions in various cultures. ...
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... A good indication of domicile is where a person registers to vote. ... 2. The domicil
by operation of law, or necessary domicil. 3. Domicil of choice. ...
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AGLO_1970_No_070
... There are generally two means by which a person's domicile may be established:
domicile by choice and domicile by operation of law. ...
www.atg.wa.gov/opinions/AGLOs/ 1970/opinion_1970_070.html - 38k - Cached - Similar pages
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... Panama or elsewhere, as well as the name and domicile of its ... of Incorporation thereof,
and subject to limitations imposed by operation of Law and restrictions ...
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... At birth we have the domicile of our parents, by operation of law -- without any
choice in the matter, and until we are free to leave home we acquire any new ...
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... In the 1900's, when a woman married a man from a different state, the woman
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Residency Manual :: Definition of Terms
... By operation of law, as in the case of a minor, whose domicile, in most cases,
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regweb.oit.unc.edu/residency/manual_terms.php - 12k - Cached - Similar pages
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... Rep. tit. Domicile; 1 Binn. 349, n.; 4 Humph. ... domicilium originis vel naturale. 2.
The domicil by operation of law, or necessary domicil. 3. Domicil of choice. ...
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MA DOR - Guide to Taxes - Personal - definition
... It may be a domicile of origin (birth), a domicile by operation of law
or a domicile of choice (accomplished by a change of residence);; ...
www.massdor.com/help/guides/abate_amend/ personal/issues/definition.htm - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
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File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... The domicile or residence of a minor child shall not be removed from the ... Unpaid
support is a lien on a payer's property by operation of law and the payer's ...
www.courts.michigan.gov/scao/courtforms/ domesticrelations/focgeneral/foc94.pdf - Similar pages
... criminal acts. dissolution of marriage. domicile by operation of law. dowry. marriage
and divorce rates around the world. marriage restrictions in various cultures. ...
encarta.msn.com/related_761575580_8/ domicile_by_operation_of_law.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
Legal Definition of Domicile
... A good indication of domicile is where a person registers to vote. ... 2. The domicil
by operation of law, or necessary domicil. 3. Domicil of choice. ...
www.lectlaw.com/def/d071.htm - 7k - Cached - Similar pages
AGLO_1970_No_070
... There are generally two means by which a person's domicile may be established:
domicile by choice and domicile by operation of law. ...
www.atg.wa.gov/opinions/AGLOs/ 1970/opinion_1970_070.html - 38k - Cached - Similar pages
Legal Info-Panama: Formation and operation of panamanian ...
... Panama or elsewhere, as well as the name and domicile of its ... of Incorporation thereof,
and subject to limitations imposed by operation of Law and restrictions ...
www.legalinfo-panama.com/english/corproc_I.htm - 30k - Cached - Similar pages
Domicile - Questions & Answers
... At birth we have the domicile of our parents, by operation of law -- without any
choice in the matter, and until we are free to leave home we acquire any new ...
www.jagcnet.army.mil/.../ 0/30e41e4b793bc07d852568b400406c3f?OpenDocument&ExpandSection=3 - 6k - Cached - Similar pages
Domicile - Questions & Answers
... In the 1900's, when a woman married a man from a different state, the woman
became a legal resident of the man's domicile by operation of law. ...
www.jagcnet.army.mil/.../ 0/30e41e4b793bc07d852568b400406c3f?OpenDocument&ExpandSection=9 - 7k - Cached - Similar pages
Residency Manual :: Definition of Terms
... By operation of law, as in the case of a minor, whose domicile, in most cases,
is presumed conclusively to be that of his or her parents (actual physical ...
regweb.oit.unc.edu/residency/manual_terms.php - 12k - Cached - Similar pages
Domicil legal definition of Domicil. What is Domicil? Meaning of ...
... Rep. tit. Domicile; 1 Binn. 349, n.; 4 Humph. ... domicilium originis vel naturale. 2.
The domicil by operation of law, or necessary domicil. 3. Domicil of choice. ...
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Domicil - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
MA DOR - Guide to Taxes - Personal - definition
... It may be a domicile of origin (birth), a domicile by operation of law
or a domicile of choice (accomplished by a change of residence);; ...
www.massdor.com/help/guides/abate_amend/ personal/issues/definition.htm - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] ORDER CORRECTING OMISSION IN ORDER CHANGE IN DOMICILE OR RESIDENCE ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... The domicile or residence of a minor child shall not be removed from the ... Unpaid
support is a lien on a payer's property by operation of law and the payer's ...
www.courts.michigan.gov/scao/courtforms/ domesticrelations/focgeneral/foc94.pdf - Similar pages
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: ""by operation of law" is perfect: it describes the default decision of the law in the absence of any express contractual provision. "
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11 mins
by rights
hope this one is less soggy
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Note added at 1 hr 21 mins (2004-05-20 00:53:26 GMT)
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a note to those detractors: Bourth also mentions \"by rights\". So
why don\'t you disagree there? Shows again your clear personal animosity.
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Note added at 1 hr 21 mins (2004-05-20 00:53:26 GMT)
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a note to those detractors: Bourth also mentions \"by rights\". So
why don\'t you disagree there? Shows again your clear personal animosity.
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
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Vicky Papaprodromou
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thanks, Vicky
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chaplin
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merci, chaplin
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writeaway
: that was the first one listed on eurodicatom but am not so sure it applies to this context. domicile by rights? http://www.proz.com/kudozrules: Please do read no. 3. have you tried Googling "elect domicile by rights?".
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you can disagree with ME as often as you like, but it is unfair to imply that the agreeing peers are all wrong too
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Kim Metzger
: "By rights" is not a legal term.
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10 hrs
Marc Van Gastel
Belgium
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Native in: Dutch
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French term (edited):
de plain droit
common law domicile
Just to check out.
It also applies to residence, check common law residence, meaning that the actual place where you live becomes your legal residence because of custom and fact...
Hence your domicile or residence could be a common law domicile or residence.
It also applies to residence, check common law residence, meaning that the actual place where you live becomes your legal residence because of custom and fact...
Hence your domicile or residence could be a common law domicile or residence.
+1
1 hr
automatically, naturally, as a matter of course, by rights
These are often the meanings of "de plein droit" and I see no reason why they wouldn't apply here i.e. why something sounding more legalistic would be required.
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Note added at 1 hr 11 mins (2004-05-20 00:43:34 GMT)
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A défaut d\'élection de domicile, celui-ci sera
censé être élu de plein droit au siège social. Néanmoins ...
www.solvay-investors.com/static_files/ attachments/statuts_fr_030605.doc
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Note added at 17 hrs 59 mins (2004-05-20 17:31:28 GMT)
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Comment:
Just because \"de plein droit\" contains the word \"droit\", which one is easily tempted, de plein droit - automatically, quite naturally, perfectly rightfully, and as a matter of course - to associate with \"law\", I don\'t think the expression is necessarily legalistic here, if at all.
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Note added at 1 hr 11 mins (2004-05-20 00:43:34 GMT)
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A défaut d\'élection de domicile, celui-ci sera
censé être élu de plein droit au siège social. Néanmoins ...
www.solvay-investors.com/static_files/ attachments/statuts_fr_030605.doc
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Note added at 17 hrs 59 mins (2004-05-20 17:31:28 GMT)
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Comment:
Just because \"de plein droit\" contains the word \"droit\", which one is easily tempted, de plein droit - automatically, quite naturally, perfectly rightfully, and as a matter of course - to associate with \"law\", I don\'t think the expression is necessarily legalistic here, if at all.
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: saw them all too-but they don't all come out in the wash when combined with elect domicile. de plein droit also means ipso jure-but I don't see that fitting in either
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If you look at the four (4!) GGLs for the expression, it really is pretty meaningless.
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Rebecca Lowery
: I'd go for automatically in the sentence given above. And automatically/by rights etc. is a legal term!!!
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