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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

artisan industriel

English translation:

small-scale (bespoke) manufacturer

Added to glossary by Michael GREEN
Jun 22, 2009 15:46
14 yrs ago
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French term

artisan industriel

French to English Bus/Financial Manufacturing
"artisan industriel" is how my client (a leading producer of specialist equipment for industry) describes his business as it was a few years ago - the point he is making is that he has rapidly grown from being a small business producing bespoke kit, to a modern manufacturer of mass-produced equipment:
"Depuis quelques années le métier de xxxxxx a beaucoup évolué, d’artisan industriel, il est devenu fabricant d’appareils en série..."
Can anybody suggest something better than my "small-scale producer", of which I'm not very proud?
Proposed translations (English)
3 +3 small-scare manufacturer
3 +1 craft producer
3 cottage-industry manufacturer
3 industrial craftsman
3 small-scale producer of custom-built units
2 bespoke manufacturer
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Non-PRO (2): writeaway, mchd

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Discussion

rkillings Jun 23, 2009:
From your description, it sounds exactly like a craft producer! One that employs "HVAC craftsmen" (q.v.) to produce "custom-crafted" (q.v.) installations, each a one-off. Now it's making multiples on a (literal or figurative) assembly line, as an industrial producer.
HVAC is dominated by craft producers, many of which have "craft" in their name. Try a search on HVAC + craft + company.
Michael GREEN (asker) Jun 23, 2009:
The key word is "industriel" We are talking about a small industrial company that has expanded rapidly - it's not a craft industry (air-conditioning & cooling, but I don't see that as relevant).
So I think "craft" should be avoided in any suggested translation. I briefly thought of "craft industry" and immediately rejected it.
The reason I posted the question, apart from my own need to find a better solution than my own, if possible, was to generate some debate on uses of this word "artisan/artisanal", which is always a bugbear for translators.
Rachel Fell Jun 22, 2009:
Hmm- maybe depends a bit on what type of craft/industry is involved, but maybe you can't say?
MatthewLaSon Jun 22, 2009:
Small-scale is what I meant. I would have failed a translation test over that. LOL.

Proposed translations

+3
9 mins
Selected

small-scare manufacturer

Note from asker:
Thank you - I imagine "small-scare" was a typo for "small-scale" ? Even at his current size, my customer doesn't frighten me ;o)
Peer comment(s):
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : Neat solution, and not that scary after all!
51 mins
Thank you, Nikki!
agree Bourth (X) : Gawd, you gave me a flight!
1 hr
I do scare folks with my translations sometimes.
agree Rachel Fell
1 day 53 mins
Thank you, Rachel!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you all for your contributions and comments. Ideally, points should be shared - although my final choice for my text was "small-scale manufacturer", I would have liked to include Bourth's idea of "bespoke", but "small-scale bespoke manufacturer" would have been too cumbersome for my context. However I will add it in that form to the glossary."
+1
1 hr

craft producer

As opposed to production-line manufacturer.

Leave 'industrial' out of it altogether; it doesn't help. Presumably, what makes the artisan 'industriel' in the first place is vaguely different from what makes the manufacturer 'industrialisé'.
Peer comment(s):
agree Bourth (X)
26 mins
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1 hr

cottage-industry manufacturer

from cottage-industry manufacturing to mass production....

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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-06-22 17:52:09 GMT)
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artisanat = cottage industry
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2 hrs

bespoke manufacturer

I was thinking "industrial craftsman", but that appears to be a craftsman who works in industry:

he persuaded me to consider becoming an instructor myself. I had always preferred to work with my hands rather than watching gauges and plotting graphs in some test laboratory, so I became an INDUSTRIAL CRAFTSMAN in the Training Shop
www.aqd.org.uk/Docs/Daves Report.rtf

The 3-year minimum course for qualification as an INDUSTRIAL CRAFTSMAN is very demanding to Service Engineering Co., Ltd., since the quality and accuracy of ...
www.serviceengineering1987.com/profile.html

It is generally accepted that the special skill of an INDUSTRIAL CRAFTSMAN should be rewarded. The payment of margins is based on that sound principle. ...
news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1301&dat...id...sjid...

He went on to acquire an INDUSTRIAL CRAFTSMAN Certificate and a Certificate in Plastic Mold Design. With his background, he joined local plastic injection ...
www.techgroup.com/aboutus/bio/seng.shtml

Billy Gunter is from Star, Mississippi and is an INDUSTRIAL CRAFTSMAN... Source: Billy Gunter [www.suprracing.com]. Billy Gunter is a liar, a cheater, ...
pipl.com/directory/people/Billy/Gunter

an INDUSTRIAL CRAFTSMAN of quite a high order. Thus we are training up a new African labour class of wage-earners, for the most part in the employ of the ...
www.informaworld.com/index/790134910.pdf

grounds inside the prison perimeter under the guidance of an INDUSTRIAL CRAFTSMAN. There were four polytunnels and one glass house; two of the polytunnels ...
inspectorates.homeoffice.gov.uk/hmiprisons/.../blunde012.pdf?...

I don't suppose "crafty industrialist" (aren't they all, comrade?) would do either, would it?

Since artisan often implies work to order - in theory, if not in fact-, how about "bespoke manufacturer"? That will flummox our American friends, now, won't it?

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Note added at 2 hrs (2009-06-22 18:00:27 GMT)
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A BESPOKE MANUFACTURER of all types of industrial and commercial doors. All of our doors are tailor made to suit individual requirements.
www.worcesterdoors.co.uk/

Chapelford Gates is a BESPOKE MANUFACTURER of gates and railings. We tailor make every set of gates or railings to individual customer requirements. ...
www.businessitonline.com/bespoke-gate-manufacturer.bios

BESPOKE MANUFACTURER of Bedroom and Kitchen Cabinetry Ref.IK189 Location Norfolk, East Anglia Asking Price £ 325000 We are delighted to be appoi...
www.mergernetwork.com/...sale/business-sale-156667.htm

Since 1994, to complement its existing range, Wrapid has become a BESPOKE MANUFACTURER of high quality envelopes and supplies many of the leading greeting ...
www.wrapid.co.uk/bags/Envelopes.htm

BESPOKE MANUFACTURER of architectural metalwork to customer specification. Specialises in corten and stainless steel. Special capabilities include pattern ...
www.esi.info/pdf.cfm?R=200.44189

As a result, we're looking to get our name as a BESPOKE MANUFACTURER even more widely known in the marketplace.” Comments on this story. no comments yet. ...
www.themanufacturer.com/.../Trelleborg_Protective_Products

Synergy Thrislington BESPOKE MANUFACTURER of Modular Clean Rooms, Cleanroom Partitions Manufacturer and it provides high quality, durable and long lasting ...
www.synergythrislington.com/

As a BESPOKE MANUFACTURER, they can offer you the choice between selecting from one of their current top models, having a cabinet tailored ...
www.prlog.org/10214513-bespoke-arcade-company-stealing-the-...
[hmmm, bespoke, yet selling "current top models" as opposed to tailored cabinets, this one]

[now, this one sounds like an industrial craftsman ... ]
A BESPOKE MANUFACTURER of tailormade materials handling solutions. bespoke clamp. If you want to lift, turn, clamp, scoop or stack contact us. ...
www.smceuroclamp.com/
Note from asker:
Thank you, Bourth. All this research certainly deserves a bottle of good Calva ... although Nikki makes a good point (but what's wrong with bicycle wheels?), this is probably quite close to what my client might have meant ...
Peer comment(s):
neutral Nikki Scott-Despaigne : Er, don't know why, but don't go a bundle on it. Sounds like he should be making bicylce wheels...
1 hr
I am rather assuming that the olde-worlde connotations of "artisan" are not out of place.
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19 hrs

industrial craftsman

Hi Michael, This might work in the context of your text. It covers the artisanal side whilst still being clear that this relates to industrial equipment. Still it does infer that he was a one man show, so I'm not sure.
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1 day 1 hr

small-scale producer of custom-built units


e.g. :
Air Handling Unit, Commercial & Industrial Units | HVAC Company
Air handling unit manufactured by Houston HVAC company. Custom Air Products & Services builds and services ... Custom built Modular Air Handling Units (AHU) ...
www.customairproducts.com/
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