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Useless words Thread poster: finnword1
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matt robinson Spain Local time: 04:40 Member (2010) Spanish to English
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Zorana B. France Local time: 04:40 Member (2023) English to French + ... onomatopoeia | Aug 18, 2023 |
Thomas T. Frost wrote: Baran Keki wrote: powwow? Meowwow? My cat thinks it's a word. Can feline words puss-ibly count as words? [Edited at 2023-08-17 12:13 GMT] may I say that since it's considered an onomatopoeia..It is definitely the coolest word! | | |
Kay Denney France Local time: 04:40 French to English
Zorana B. wrote: Thomas T. Frost wrote: Baran Keki wrote: powwow? Meowwow? My cat thinks it's a word. Can feline words puss-ibly count as words? [Edited at 2023-08-17 12:13 GMT] may I say that since it's considered an onomatopoeia..It is definitely the coolest word! And it's far from useless because cats invest their miaows with a lot of meaning! | | |
Michele Fauble wrote: Matthias Brombach wrote: Lingua 5B wrote: Matthias Brombach wrote: Tom in London wrote: Matthias Brombach wrote: Tom in London wrote: òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.
[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT] ...bears a common acknowledged notion, yes. If not, then not. Who says? You. You have to prove that òpidubvè97r is also a word with a commonly acknowledged notion and others would have to confirm. A word needs to have a meaning. So what you wrote does not qualify. And who … ...defines the meaning? A community of speakers. [Edited at 2023-08-17 18:13 GMT] Coming back to my question and please feel free to teach me again: Does "òpidubvè97r" then represent a word, according to your above statement: And who … ...defines the meaning? A community of speakers. | |
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Lingua 5B Bosnia and Herzegovina Local time: 04:40 Member (2009) English to Croatian + ... No it doesn’t | Aug 21, 2023 |
If you are able to define its meaning, in clear terms, then it does. | | |
Lingua 5B wrote: If you are able to define its meaning, in clear terms, then it does. ...but then we both agree on my statement you quoted under your headline "Not really" on page 1 and you hereby openly disagree with Tom? | | |
Matthias Brombach wrote: Michele Fauble wrote: Matthias Brombach wrote: Lingua 5B wrote: Matthias Brombach wrote: Tom in London wrote: Matthias Brombach wrote: Tom in London wrote: òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.
[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT] ...bears a common acknowledged notion, yes. If not, then not. Who says? You. You have to prove that òpidubvè97r is also a word with a commonly acknowledged notion and others would have to confirm. A word needs to have a meaning. So what you wrote does not qualify. And who … ...defines the meaning? A community of speakers. [Edited at 2023-08-17 18:13 GMT] Coming back to my question and please feel free to teach me again: Does "òpidubvè97r" then represent a word, according to your above statement: And who … ...defines the meaning? A community of speakers. a word is defined as follows: A single distinct meaningful element of speech or writing, used with others (or sometimes alone) to form a sentence and typically shown with a space on either side when written or printed then it's not a word but an agglutination of letters and figures. A word is a "meaningful" element of "speech" (can you pronounce that element Tom calls a word?). But maybe in Klingonian, Dothraki or Sindarin it has a meaning, who knows ... | | |
Not a useless word | Aug 21, 2023 |
finnword1 wrote: One of the most useless words in the English language is "whatsoever". (None whatsoever is already none). Any other nominations for the list? It may not have a meaning, but I disagree that it is useless as it's used for emphasis. "There is no reason whatsoever" portrays a kind of seething fury that is missing from "there is no reason", which is a bland statement of fact. Going by your logic, words like "really" and "truly" would also be useless. | | |
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