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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

pêche à soutenir

English translation:

handline fishing

Added to glossary by Miranda Joubioux (X)
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French term

pêche à soutenir

French to English Tech/Engineering Fisheries Sea fishing
In an article describing the different fishing techiques that can be practised from a boat:

La pêche à soutenir est la technique la plus répandue ; le bateau est ancré dans un endroit qu’on espère poissonneux. Le sondeur permet d’identifier les lieux propices : hauts fonds, têtes de roches, endroits accidentés ou épaves, là où le poisson peut se cacher. Une ligne plombée est descendue jusqu’au fond, munie d’un appât naturel (morceau de sardine, d’encornet, ver…). Pour être en mesure de remonter une capture, la profondeur ne doit pas excéder les 50 mètres, on la pratique donc difficilement en haute mer.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 bottom fishing; legering
4 line fishing
3 drop fishing
Change log

Sep 29, 2010 17:12: Stéphanie Soudais changed "Field (specific)" from "Tourism & Travel" to "Fisheries"

Sep 30, 2010 16:33: Miranda Joubioux (X) Created KOG entry

Discussion

Miranda Joubioux (X) (asker) Oct 1, 2010:
Thanks for your contribution David - very interesting.
David Goward Oct 1, 2010:
Handlining/Jigging I see that this is all done and dusted, but just wanted to add my tuppence-worth. When I started sea angling as a mere boy, I started by handlining to see if I'd take to it before I got my own rod & reel. Fresh bait was used when handlining - although this tended to be mussels rather than sardine in the North Sea! A handline is not usually used for "jigging" due to the action involved (and it would be rather tiring!) Shallow water is better too as you have to pull up your catch by hand and manually wind the line around a frame as you do so - not as easy as it sounds with a 3 or 4-pound fish on the end! Jigging therefore tends to be done using a rod and line and, at the bottom end, lures. The jigging action involves lifting the rod tip high in the air and then lowering it so as to move the lures up and down in the water near the sea bed (the lures are often rubber "squid").
Miranda Joubioux (X) (asker) Sep 30, 2010:
Final reference http://www.fao.org/docrep/009/ae987b/AE987B01.htm
Miranda Joubioux (X) (asker) Sep 30, 2010:
Thanks to everyone for all your suggestions A special thanks goes to Paula who came up with a wonderful glossary that led me to the answer. It is in fact 'handline fishing', which corresponds very well to the description given and which I have managed to corroborate through other searches.
It's amazing how many types of fishing there are and I've been on a learning curve here.
Thanks again!
Desdemone (X) Sep 29, 2010:
Canadian government sites are full of all kinds of glossaries. Unfortunately, many translators are under the impression that Canadian French/English is too "different". Tip: search in Google advanced and select gc.ca as domain - it's amazing what pops up.
Carol Gullidge Sep 29, 2010:
not all that much like jigging! the "series of short movements in the water at a level where fish are present" mentioned under "Jigging" doesn't much resemble what Miranda posted in the context, where the hook sinks to the bottom, albeit no lower than 50 metres!
But I still think it's a marvellous glossary...
Hilary Wilson Sep 29, 2010:
It does sound like jigging, the only pb is that French differentiates between peche a soutenir et jigging....http://www.top-fishing.fr/contenu/techniques-peche-mer/les-p...
never knew they were so many types of leisure fishing....!
Carol Gullidge Sep 29, 2010:
to jig or not to jig? not sure that this totally fits, as, according to this, jigging doesn't necessarily go to the bottom. However, I wish I'd seen that glossary when I needed "palangre" many moons ago! Many thanks Paula for the terrific glossary!
Desdemone (X) Sep 29, 2010:
Sounds like jigging
See:
http://www2.mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/communications/maritimes/FactS...
First entry under the Ls "Ligne à main" then toggle to English and look under handline - I believe you'll find what you're looking for in the French and English explanations.
Also, google cod jigging.

Proposed translations

+2
28 mins

bottom fishing; legering

this sounds a possibility: and bait/lures are used for this type of fishing, and weights are used.

Wikipedia again: Other angling
Bottom fishing - is fishing the bottom of a body of water. In the United Kingdom it is called "legering". A common rig for fishing on the bottom is a weight tied to the end of the line, with a hook about an inch up line from the weight. The method can be used both with hand lines and rods. There are fishing rods specialized for bottom fishing, called "donkas". The weight is used to cast or throw the line an appropriate distance. Bottom fishing can be done both from boats and from the land. It targets groundfish such as sucker fish, bream, catfish, and crappie.

and here are the first g-hits for "bottom fishing":

Fishing Baits and Fishing Lures - Fish Bait - Saltwater Fishing Lures
We were bottom fishing some twnety miles offshore over an artificial reef, using small live fish for bait. One of our favorite live bottom baits is a small ...
saltfishing.about.com/.../baitsandlures/Fishing_Baits_and_Fishing_Lures.htm - Cached - Similar

Mackerel | Herring | Cod | Whiting | Sea Fishing Bait UK | Article ...
A tip we always use if bottom fishing for mackerel is to place a cork from a wine bottle just above the hook, this helps to float the bait above the bottom ...
www.seafishingbaituk.co.uk/mackerel.html - Cached

The Beginners Guide to Shore Fishing Page Four
Every 30 minutes you should be changing the bait on the hook as the scent trail dissipates. If you're catching nothing but others ... BOTTOM FISHING TIPS ...
www.torbayfishing.com/help-guides/sea-fishing-p4.htm - Cached - Similar

Using Ragworm as a Sea Fishing Bait
How to use ragworm as a sea fishing bait. ... serve to increase the scent trail further and works particularly well when bottom fishing stationary baits. ...
www.southwestseafishing.co.uk/using-ragworm-as-a-sea-fishin... - Cached
Note from asker:
Legering looks like it might be right. Thanks Carol. It's certainly fits the depth and from the links I've found it sounds like its relatively easy, so it explains why it is a widespread technique.
Peer comment(s):
agree kashew
2 mins
thanks kashew!
neutral Hilary Wilson : Bottom fishing only targets demersal fish with one hook at the bottom. Peche a soutenir targets both demersal and pelagic fish with several hooks along the length of theline.
28 mins
I'm afraid you've lost me with demersal and pelagic :)
agree Graham macLachlan : though I would spell it with a "d" : ledgering
3 hrs
many thanks Graham! I'm afraid I never thought to query the Wiki spelling.
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41 mins

drop fishing

or drop shot fishing
Reference:

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CFPage?mode=article&objectID=31353&storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1

Note from asker:
Thanks Hilary. I had actually found quite a few links to 'drop shot fishing' and decided to exclude it, since it's a deep sea technique.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Carol Gullidge : your link talks of deep-water fishing (200m to 3000m) whereas the Asker's fishing " ne doit pas excéder les 50 mètres"!
45 mins
indeed!
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1 hr

line fishing

I think the French term just refers to line fishing in general as opposed to trawl-nets etc. In line fishing, the line can be long, going to the bottom, or not. The French description provided seems to correspond to the general description of line fishing.
Note from asker:
I'm afraid not Maia. It's much more specific than that. There are several types of 'line fishing' described in this document. Thanks anyway!
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