Quotation Marks Автор на темата: Hans Lenting
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Summary:
Don't add quotes to your glossaries. Add straight double quotes to your memories (if necessary).
I am trying to find a solution to the fuzzy matching problems resulting from differences in quotes (“, ”, ‘, ’, ", „, », «, ‹, ›,《 , 》, ') between different versions of the same document.
![1realsize](https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1716097571/ihhyrgz0cujol9o7dafv.png)
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The glossary:
![2](https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1716097600/m2s6vzv0sf2xnxxiobor.png)
Matches from the glossary:
![3](https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1716097635/ijaux3jw4c32wl7zsjsh.png)
![4](https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1716097648/gbemubz8xz0q8jucnstu.png)
Observations:
- Segment #3 is only a Fuzzy Match of segment #2.
- Segment #4 is an Exact Match of segment #3!
- Terms in source segments that contain double quotes, are recognized in the Glossary pane, auto-assembled in the Target segment editor, but not highlighted there. (A cosmetic glitch that is a little confusing.)
Conclusions:
- The straight double quotes match all curly quotes (single or double).
- Curly quotes (single or double) don't match other curly quotes.
Best practices:
TMs:
- Replace all quotes with straight double quotes in the source segments (see below).
- Replace all quotes with straight double quotes in the target segments.
Glossaries:
- Don't add quotes to the source terms in your glossaries.
- Don't add quotes to the target terms in your glossaries.
- If necessary: Add quotes to your target segments during the translation phase.
- Or better: Run Find and Replace actions on the target segments to add the appropriate quotes prior to doing your QA.
Finding and replacing:
![5](https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1716098103/ysqcpih5wfdqcg9ogg4v.png)
![6](https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1716098135/jwjwxrgkxy0lvjgryu2n.png)
![7](https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1716098148/juwjalbviowerseqvnbl.png)
App settings:
![8](https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1716097683/hlft0fd43fcizduzfxdq.png)
![9](https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1716097695/x8sypcdc1hxf6v0vn2tn.png)
[Edited at 2024-05-19 06:05 GMT] | | | Hans Lenting Нидерландия Член (2006) Немски на Холандски АВТОР НА ТЕМАТА | Hans Lenting Нидерландия Член (2006) Немски на Холандски АВТОР НА ТЕМАТА Adding quotes to the target segments | May 19, 2024 |
You can do this via QA > Word lists > Find and replace in target segments:
![Screen Shot 2024-05-19 at 09.01.58](https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1716102382/dezezsmv4ttrlhhejedl.png)
You can save these client-specific replacement lists.
![1](https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1716184132/abm1rha4nswoq6nkwmho.gif)
Note: I have no idea why the case is toggled.
[Edited at 2024-05-20 05:49 GMT] | | | Hans Lenting Нидерландия Член (2006) Немски на Холандски АВТОР НА ТЕМАТА
I wrote:
Note: I have no idea why the case is toggled.
[Edited at 2024-05-20 05:49 GMT]
Answer from the developer:
Please see the "Preserve case with replacement" option in the Find and Replace panel. | |
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Hans Lenting Нидерландия Член (2006) Немски на Холандски АВТОР НА ТЕМАТА Final step: Replace all straight double quotes with curly double quotes | May 21, 2024 |
Use this regular expressions to replace nearly all straight double quotes with curly double quotes:
![Screenshot 2024-05-21 at 07.36.27](https://res.cloudinary.com/proz/image/upload/v1716269862/qagn6ailuon1ftinf66a.png)
Then search for any remaining straight double quotes, spanning tags or being unpaired in the segment, manually. Fix them too.
Edit: Whole words shouldn't be ticked.
[Edited at 2024-05-21 05:40 GMT] | | | Hans Lenting Нидерландия Член (2006) Немски на Холандски АВТОР НА ТЕМАТА
Hans Lenting wrote:
Glossaries:
Don't add quotes to the source terms in your glossaries.
Don't add quotes to the target terms in your glossaries.
I'd like to turn that advice into:
Glossaries:
Don't add quotes to the source terms in your glossaries.
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