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Should I decline or award the points anyway?
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Gina W
Gina W
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Some gifts are not so humble Mar 3, 2005

Bet ya, there will be others fighting, and I do too, but not when I'm the asker. I think asker's position is different - as askers we gather offerings and should not turn into an angry pagan deity and strike those bringing humble gifts. IMHO.


Funny you should refer to these "gifts" as "humble". Because in my opinion, if they are really "gifts" and they are truly "humble", then the person would not get upset at not being awarded points - or at no one being awarded points. A thank you should be more than enough. If is is not, I have to wonder why.

I see your point and respect your opinion but respectfully disagree. To me, it is disappointing that someone can not accept a sincere thank you, and the only way they accept sincere gratitude - and consider gratitude sincere in the first place - is by the awarding of points. I don't see it as a requirement. I am sure many will disagree, and they may be petty enough to not respond to any future questions of mine, and that is fine, since their motivation would be to accumulate points and go on about how they are "right", and not to help me and others who might run into this term in the future. Also, the fact that the term will be available to others is a big part of the reason I post questions in the first place. And by the way, a person does not necessarily have the best choice answer, just because more people post in agreement, in my opinion! Some people seem to think the person with the most 'agrees' should get the points - I do not.

But I digress....and you get the point, I'm sure. Take care.


 
Gina W
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I disagree Mar 3, 2005

I respectfully disagree. I think this person's attitude stinks. And then this person got someone ELSE to post a note to me about how I should award the points to - you guessed it - the person complaining. I noticed that person has a bunch of people who posted "agree", but honestly, if I were to choose a response that was the LEAST helpful, that would be it. However, I was extremely nice even so, and expressed my appreciation for this response anyway, since it did add to the responses, even i... See more
I respectfully disagree. I think this person's attitude stinks. And then this person got someone ELSE to post a note to me about how I should award the points to - you guessed it - the person complaining. I noticed that person has a bunch of people who posted "agree", but honestly, if I were to choose a response that was the LEAST helpful, that would be it. However, I was extremely nice even so, and expressed my appreciation for this response anyway, since it did add to the responses, even if it wasn't perfect. I am floored that people support someone's attitude of not accepting someone else's gratitude.

I have emailed a couple moderators and I am waiting for their responses on this. But I have to tell you that I find this ridiculous. I don't find a person who responds and makes a big deal of not getting the points to be the least bit gracious about responding. And as such, perhaps that person should not respond to any future questions of mine. Maybe I would miss out but I would also miss out on the aggravation and attitiude, so I can live with that. I'm not totally unknowledgeable anyway, so I shouldn't be made to feel I have to give in to this person just because she has tried to bully me on this topic. There are other language professionals who have more of a professional attitude about collaboration.

[Edited to add]: Well, apparently I am wrong, even though I still disagree with this obligation to choose a response. Point taken and I will keep this in mind for the future. I hope that what I have stated here will be taken into consideration, too. Also perhaps an option to share points would be something to consider. Just a suggestion...but anyway, I realize I'm outnumbered and so I'll follow the Rule 2.1 that I've been asked to.

[Edited at 2005-03-03 02:37]
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Claudia Iglesias
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Gad Mar 3, 2005

I think that you're rejecting the system, you have to accept how it works and if you don't like it you must not use it.

The system works with points, your satisfaction and thankfulness are shown with the points. This doesn't avoid saying "thank you" to everybody.

There have been many requests and discussions to get rid of points, but the thing is that it's still working with points.

I would (maybe) understand that somebody would not like to give points to h
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I think that you're rejecting the system, you have to accept how it works and if you don't like it you must not use it.

The system works with points, your satisfaction and thankfulness are shown with the points. This doesn't avoid saying "thank you" to everybody.

There have been many requests and discussions to get rid of points, but the thing is that it's still working with points.

I would (maybe) understand that somebody would not like to give points to helpful answers if KudoZ were deduced from his own KudoZ, but it's not the case, you can be generous and it doesn't cost anything to you, so be generous!

My advice would be "play the game with its rules" and you'll get the best answers.

Claudia
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Gina W
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Claudia, please see my update to my last post Mar 3, 2005

I think that you're rejecting the system, you have to accept how it works and if you don't like it you must not use it.


Please see above. I've accepted it and will follow this, even if I still disagree. I also still think this person's attitude stinks - and it is in very poor taste that someone else actually wrote a note saying that I should give the points to that person. I gave it to the first person who responded, whose response was also the closest to what I used, if I have to figure out which one was closest.

I still can't believe people think it's ok for someone to go on and on about not being awarded points. I've felt frustrated lately - I hear about it when I do award points, and then when I don't and express more gratitude than people apparently know how to recognize and accept.

But case closed and lesson learned - thank you and I still disagree but will follow.


 
Claudia Iglesias
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Thank you gad Mar 3, 2005

I'm glad we could listen to each other's arguments, and of course we are not compelled to agree or to find fine everything as it is.

Thanks for your understanding

Claudia


 
Gina W
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You too, Claudia Mar 3, 2005

Thank you for respecting my POV on this. Take care.

 
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